Sachairi Mac Cába

"Truth that was in our hearts, and strength in our arms, and fulfillment in our tongues."
Colloquy of the Ancients.

Warning: Nazi in Celtic Related Tags.

sachairimaccaba:

Everyone should be warned. There is a nazi posting in the celtic reconstructionist, celtic, and others.

Be careful. Do not try to fight them head on.

Trust me, there would be nothing that would make me happier. Block them and report for abuse of Tumblr TOS and hate speech.

/ beyond/ the…

Neo-Nazis in our spaces is why CAORANN exists. 

Warning: Nazi in Celtic Related Tags.

Everyone should be warned. There is a nazi posting in the celtic reconstructionist, celtic, and others.

Be careful. Do not try to fight them head on.  

Trust me, there would be nothing that would make me happier. Block them and report for abuse of Tumblr TOS and hate speech

/ beyond/ the /northern /sky Url has no slashes or spaces.

I should also say that their views have nothing to do with Celtic Reconstructionists, Polytheists, and others who fall into Celtic religion and spirituality. They bring shame and dishonor on all of us,

Release the barbarian horde!

Someone in the GP group on Facebook was talking about hearing tin whistle style music and chimes randomly at night. I couldn’t help my self and had to comment with this.

Best be careful, could be those Fey trying to get into people’s homes again.

*knock knock knock*
“Who is it?”
“Oisín Mac Cumhailarbhgher?”
“Who?”
“…plumbers.”
“I didn’t call any plumbers.”
“oh, telegram.”
“No.”
“Candygram?”
“Nope, you’re those Fey. Aren’t you?”
“No sir, we’re just Englishmen.”
“Oh, ok.”
“Get him boyos!”

Anonymous said: No religion is perfect, and no person that founded religion is/was perfect. Gardner came from an older time, where it was acceptable for things to be sexist/homophobic/etc. That doesn't however, define the religion. Religion is defined by its people, and much of those who practice Wicca are not sexist or homophobic, and some might be homosexual themselves. I ask that you reconsider your choice to not add Wicca to your library. It is a legitimate religion like any other.

asksecularwitch:

sachairimaccaba:

nicstoirm:

I should rephrase that I can’t include Wicca because there isn’t any other public text to go with Wicca other than what Gardner published, and there aren’t any Wiccans (not NeoWiccans) that are publicly reinterpreting Gardner’s core texts to my knowledge. If you know of any Wiccans who are, please let me know.

Here is just this section which includes a lot of women-are-beneath-men ideology that I do not support.

Now, individual covens may differ and have since rewritten core tenants of what Gardner wrote. However, their texts are secret and I don’t know about them nor can I copy them for public consumption.

There are some religions that I’ve come across that were born out of the Gardner’s publications that I’m going to include, such as Starhawk’s Reclaiming Tradition.

As someone who has studied history and uses a social framework that combines a  mix of religious, military, and a bottom-up view within my framework, I just want to say “product of their time” is the most bullshit excuse to be uttered.

Yeah people of that time period where shitty. Know what, we’re still shitty today. It’s human nature to be complete assholes. This does not change the fact that we can be critical of texts and their views towards groups of peoples. It’s also important to understand not everything is a 100% black and white morality that is the norm on Tumblr, but the fact remains that we can understand that some people are just giant dicks.

"But so-and-so is a product of their time." comes from the historical framework that as societies progress they become better in the sense of the idea of "morally good". As in "Morally good" = societies’ level of technology and advancement. This was then compared to other societies such as those who lived in other places that where not white and or European. I think you know where I’m going with this, but I’m going to say it anyway.

It is a shitty, racist, historical framework that should never hold any grounds in a discussion or debate what so ever. Not only does it give a “morally good” reason to colonize and opress a foreign and often tribal group. It completely excuses an individuals actions. A good example is my grandfather. My grandfather was born in the 1920’s and was a horrible racist. Growing up in the 1930’s and 40’s does not excuse his behavior. He was a pretty fucking shitty person. My grandmother on the other hand was a 6ft tall amazonian that fought for women’s rights as people and supported the civil rights movement. How she stayed married to my grandfather only the gods know, Brighid bless her soul.

Gardner was a wealthy white man who used religion to oppress others. Exactly the type of person I hate. He was also an extremely bad scholar who’s arguments couldn’t even hold an once of water if it was frozen.

"No religion is 100% perfect." Your exactly right. Nothing in this world is perfect because it is a human idea that will never reflect the natural world around us. This never excuses a religion. Ever. Hell, I even have  issues within Gaelic Polytheism/Celtic Recon with the attitude that being a flame tender for Brighid is not allowed for Transwomen (they’re women, the gods don’t give a fuck what’s between a person’s legs.)

I’m also going to say the reason that historical Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism grew so fast is because of exactly what their prophets taught. Each one was a radical idea of inclusion, peace, and respect for others. Yes, they were eventually twisted by a political group, and I’m looking at Christianity here to be exact. (mostly because I have studied the history of Christianity a bit and know some basics.) It can be argued that Jesus’ vision died when Christianity became a state religion of Rome. It’s also a fair argument that after a prophet/teacher dies their words and visions become twisted by followers. Gardner’s views stayed pretty true and is still seen within modern Paganism today.

Strict gender binary, sex as ritual and ownership (mostly over women and goddess/and spirits, general treatment of women, race, and lgbtqa+, etc. Thus making it a religion of oppression first rather than a movement of radicalism in it’s time period. I am going to judge the fuck out of it. I’m also going to judge people very harshly who try to defend these ideas. If you’ll defend ideas that are meant to keep people inline you are not a trust worthy individual and have no honor. You are siding with the oppressor, you have become the oppressor.

In closing this is what we have learned today:

1: The advancement of a society does not equal advancing as “morally good”. That view is out dated at best and honestly racist in it’s truth.

2: “Product of their time” is a bad argument and excuses individuals of  their actions. You know someone is going to use this argument 50+ years from now. “The GOP during the early 2,000’s and Obama administration were a product of their time.” No they’re not. I’m form this time and I don’t accept their views. They’re horrible people who have no ethical or moral choices for governing.

3:Gardner used Wicca as a form of oppression from the very beginning of initiation. In fact I think I would argue more for the benefit of Neo-Wicca since it’s a bastardized version which may not have the same problems from it’s beginnings as Wicca.

4: OP did not know what they are saying and should not be judged too harshly since history is taught very poorly in America. And most people don’t have the time/energy/money to honestly study history as it should be done. Thus I am showing my own privilege in this debate.

If you want to add or talk about any constructive dialog, feel free to talk to me about it. I’m sure I missed some good points or may have misunderstood some parts of Wicca.

If you want to send hate, fuck off. Or try to fight me. Your choice. 

Look at this beautiful post.

LOOK AT IT.

It’s so beautiful.

I want to stroke the beautifulness. But I won’t because that’s creepy and I don’t like being creepy.

So I shall reblog.

AND LOOK AT IT SO BEAUTIFUL.

Thank you so much!

I actually thought your post and summery were a better critique and phrased far more professionally than I could ever manage. 

Anonymous said: No religion is perfect, and no person that founded religion is/was perfect. Gardner came from an older time, where it was acceptable for things to be sexist/homophobic/etc. That doesn't however, define the religion. Religion is defined by its people, and much of those who practice Wicca are not sexist or homophobic, and some might be homosexual themselves. I ask that you reconsider your choice to not add Wicca to your library. It is a legitimate religion like any other.

nicstoirm:

I should rephrase that I can’t include Wicca because there isn’t any other public text to go with Wicca other than what Gardner published, and there aren’t any Wiccans (not NeoWiccans) that are publicly reinterpreting Gardner’s core texts to my knowledge. If you know of any Wiccans who are, please let me know.

Here is just this section which includes a lot of women-are-beneath-men ideology that I do not support.

Now, individual covens may differ and have since rewritten core tenants of what Gardner wrote. However, their texts are secret and I don’t know about them nor can I copy them for public consumption.

There are some religions that I’ve come across that were born out of the Gardner’s publications that I’m going to include, such as Starhawk’s Reclaiming Tradition.

As someone who has studied history and uses a social framework that combines a  mix of religious, military, and a bottom-up view within my framework, I just want to say “product of their time” is the most bullshit excuse to be uttered.

Yeah people of that time period where shitty. Know what, we’re still shitty today. It’s human nature to be complete assholes. This does not change the fact that we can be critical of texts and their views towards groups of peoples. It’s also important to understand not everything is a 100% black and white morality that is the norm on Tumblr, but the fact remains that we can understand that some people are just giant dicks.

"But so-and-so is a product of their time." comes from the historical framework that as societies progress they become better in the sense of the idea of "morally good". As in "Morally good" = societies’ level of technology and advancement. This was then compared to other societies such as those who lived in other places that where not white and or European. I think you know where I’m going with this, but I’m going to say it anyway.

It is a shitty, racist, historical framework that should never hold any grounds in a discussion or debate what so ever. Not only does it give a “morally good” reason to colonize and opress a foreign and often tribal group. It completely excuses an individuals actions. A good example is my grandfather. My grandfather was born in the 1920’s and was a horrible racist. Growing up in the 1930’s and 40’s does not excuse his behavior. He was a pretty fucking shitty person. My grandmother on the other hand was a 6ft tall amazonian that fought for women’s rights as people and supported the civil rights movement. How she stayed married to my grandfather only the gods know, Brighid bless her soul.

Gardner was a wealthy white man who used religion to oppress others. Exactly the type of person I hate. He was also an extremely bad scholar who’s arguments couldn’t even hold an once of water if it was frozen.

"No religion is 100% perfect." Your exactly right. Nothing in this world is perfect because it is a human idea that will never reflect the natural world around us. This never excuses a religion. Ever. Hell, I even have  issues within Gaelic Polytheism/Celtic Recon with the attitude that being a flame tender for Brighid is not allowed for Transwomen (they’re women, the gods don’t give a fuck what’s between a person’s legs.)

I’m also going to say the reason that historical Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism grew so fast is because of exactly what their prophets taught. Each one was a radical idea of inclusion, peace, and respect for others. Yes, they were eventually twisted by a political group, and I’m looking at Christianity here to be exact. (mostly because I have studied the history of Christianity a bit and know some basics.) It can be argued that Jesus’ vision died when Christianity became a state religion of Rome. It’s also a fair argument that after a prophet/teacher dies their words and visions become twisted by followers. Gardner’s views stayed pretty true and is still seen within modern Paganism today.

Strict gender binary, sex as ritual and ownership (mostly over women and goddess/and spirits, general treatment of women, race, and lgbtqa+, etc. Thus making it a religion of oppression first rather than a movement of radicalism in it’s time period. I am going to judge the fuck out of it. I’m also going to judge people very harshly who try to defend these ideas. If you’ll defend ideas that are meant to keep people inline you are not a trust worthy individual and have no honor. You are siding with the oppressor, you have become the oppressor.

In closing this is what we have learned today:

1: The advancement of a society does not equal advancing as “morally good”. That view is out dated at best and honestly racist in it’s truth.

2: “Product of their time” is a bad argument and excuses individuals of  their actions. You know someone is going to use this argument 50+ years from now. “The GOP during the early 2,000’s and Obama administration were a product of their time.” No they’re not. I’m form this time and I don’t accept their views. They’re horrible people who have no ethical or moral choices for governing.

3:Gardner used Wicca as a form of oppression from the very beginning of initiation. In fact I think I would argue more for the benefit of Neo-Wicca since it’s a bastardized version which may not have the same problems from it’s beginnings as Wicca.

4: OP did not know what they are saying and should not be judged too harshly since history is taught very poorly in America. And most people don’t have the time/energy/money to honestly study history as it should be done. Thus I am showing my own privilege in this debate.

If you want to add or talk about any constructive dialog, feel free to talk to me about it. I’m sure I missed some good points or may have misunderstood some parts of Wicca.

If you want to send hate, fuck off. Or try to fight me. Your choice. 

Anonymous said: Merry meet, I was wondering if you knew what incense or herbs were most commonly burned by the Celtic/Irish? Thank you

breelandwalker:

Considering incense would have been something that was mostly used in churches (if they were wealthy) and historical texts are spotty on the subject of actual Non-Christian country-folk rituals….

….Yeah, I got nothing.

I know that wheat and barley (and also corn) are important for decorations in many Irish festivals, both secular and religious, but I don’t believe that sort of thing makes good incense.

(CI Folk, feel free to chime in if you know something I don’t.)

Yo!

Celtic/Irish technically works since “Celtic” is just a term for the language group. Not a genetic marker, Gaelic is what is used for when talking about the Irish, Scots, and Manx.

Main Celtic groups are:

Gauls: Modern France.

Celtiberians/Iberians: Modern Spain.

Brythonic: Britons and Welsh, also includes Bretons (I think).

Gaels: Irish, Scots, and Manx.

And sometimes the Picts: Britons who were pushed up into Scotland by the Romans, but also could have already been there already.

What use are you wanting to burn herbs for? Is it a sacrifice/offering to the Dé ocus anDé? Is it for cleansing? Or is it to keep you home smelling nice?

If it’s an offering/sacrifice, I’d suggest Juniper. It’s native to many places and has been used in Ireland for ages. If it’s for cleansing, look into saining. You don’t even have to burn herbs, you can use water. Which is nice since a lot of people try to steal Native American rituals and use them.

There could have been other herbs burned as a way to keeps homes and halls smelling nice.  

Anonymous said: Hi Bree! Your info says that your affinity is Irish Celtic. I was wondering if you know if the Morrigan would be okay with being worshipped/worked with as secondary to another deity or if you could get the Caw Squad to help out. I'm also interested in reading some primary sources about the Morrigan, if you know of any. Thank you!

breelandwalker:

I don’t answer deity questions, so I’m gonna pass this off to the Caw Squad.

CAW SQUAD, ASSEMBLE!

Not part of the Caw Squad, nor do I work with any members of the Morrígna much/if at all. But, coming from the perspective of someone who is a Gaelic Polytheist I would say it greatly depends. Are you being appropriative? Are the other deities from a culture that meshes with that of the Gaels? If you aren’t being appropriative and the other culture seems to mesh well, I wouldn’t think it could be a problem. But then again, you never know.

From what I have heard from Morrígna worshipers is that they can be very demanding. I wouldn’t go to them just because they seem badass or cool, which they are, but  only if you feel a strong connection to them. I’ve only felt a connection through practice pf martial arts or being in some kind of conflict and even then I think it was only Badb Catha (if it was actually any member of the Morrígna.) People can and will feel vastly different connections with them. I’ve read that some people feel a very close “motherly love” with some of them.

I’d say get some info from people who are very close to them and go from there.

herban-druid:

sachairimaccaba:

I got to give these to one of my fellow Gaelic Polytheists friends today, so now I can finally post these! It’s a set of the three realms in Sengoídelc and written in ogham. It goes talam (earth), muir (sea), and nem (sky). Muir was hard to write out with all the third aicmí letters, they tend to bunch up. Now I want to make a set for my self.

Ooooh pretties!
Ogham pro-tip (not that I am a “pro”!!): when there are an odd number of tallies I like to draw the center one first and make it a bit longer than the others. Makes it a lot easier to 1) predict/dictate much space a character is going to take up, and 2) read later (i and ii are easy to tell apart, but ii and iIi are much easier to distinguish than ii and iii, and iii iiii iiiii are far easier to read when they look like iIi iiii iiIii).

That’s a great idea! I’ll have to do that next time I work on something like this. 

herban-druid:

sachairimaccaba:

I got to give these to one of my fellow Gaelic Polytheists friends today, so now I can finally post these! It’s a set of the three realms in Sengoídelc and written in ogham. It goes talam (earth), muir (sea), and nem (sky). Muir was hard to write out with all the third aicmí letters, they tend to bunch up. Now I want to make a set for my self.

Ooooh pretties!

Ogham pro-tip (not that I am a “pro”!!): when there are an odd number of tallies I like to draw the center one first and make it a bit longer than the others. Makes it a lot easier to 1) predict/dictate much space a character is going to take up, and 2) read later (i and ii are easy to tell apart, but ii and iIi are much easier to distinguish than ii and iii, and iii iiii iiiii are far easier to read when they look like iIi iiii iiIii).

That’s a great idea! I’ll have to do that next time I work on something like this. 

hayleyjustine said: You work with the Morrigan too? I do too but Im trying to find a better way to connect with her. Any tips?

wanderingartificer:

turnedtostardust:

Whack her on the head with a skillet if she appears in a dream. Worked for me last August.

In all seriousness, that approach may not work for you. Deities don’t always manifest in dreams, and even then, it’s up to the devotee’s levels of discernment and omen receptivity to be able to recognize the appearance as the deity. I had my doubts about the incident until I got confirmation from a close friend who also works with the Morrigan. My dream-self whipped out a skillet since she chose to show up as a cloaked figure; my choice of self-defense was apparently amusing.

Anyhow, how you can connect with the Morrigan is really varied, and is a case-by-case kind of thing. One follower may dedicate their exercise routine or athletic activity to her, while another may create art or write for her. One devotee may request her assistance with magical workings, while another offers part of their meals to her. virtueminehonor is also a devotee of the Morrigan, and wrote this great post about how facing even daily, mundane battles may be applauded by her. You could do as many pagan theists do, and make and tend to an altar for her—however, as fitting as it would be, don’t keep any corvid feathers on it or at all since most corvid species are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918. You might just have to do a trial-and-error run to see what works for you.

If anyone has a longer history with the Morrigan (mine’s just over a year), I welcome any corrections or additional suggestions.

Personally, the best way I connect with her is through combat of various kinds, as well as training for such. Practicing with my spear, with a sword, or sparring against my friends really gets me into the right state of mind. Even when not actively practicing some form of combat though, running, doing pushups, pullups, really any kind of workout helps me to feel better connected to her. 

When I can’t do that however, I turn to music. By playing various songs (either on my computer or on my bodhran), it helps me to tune my thoughts and my mind. In particular, songs that allow me to play an almost wardrum like beat really help me connect with her. 

I don’t work with the Morrígna much/if at all, but I can second Artificer’s points. Practicing historical marital arts really helped me connect with the Dé ocus Andé. Once you get to this point you can just go into this zone where you’re making these awesome cuts and your from is fantastic.

When you spar you can feel your heart pound and can hear it in your head. And it sounds like a thousand people who came before you drumming and chanting and you just keep going and swinging and blocking. Each blow you block on the shield is pure bliss and each stroke that lands is joy. By the time the practice is over you feel at peace and it’s one of the most scariest, yet wholesome feelings I’ve ever had.

Our ancestors came from a warrior culture. Our gods are warriors. We are warriors (even though it doesn’t  have to involve fighting). And it’s a very strange beautiful feeling being in a fight. Even if it’s just practice. And I think of the Morrígna and specifically Badb Catha when I feel like there’s going to be a confrontation (even though I haven’t been in a fist fight since high school) and you just have this feeling of “Fuck yeah! You wanna go!? Cause we can dance all night long.” and you feel as if you can take on an entire army by your self.

So what I’m saying OP is not to join a Fight Club (just broke first rule, my bad)  or anything, but maybe look into some martial arts. I think it might be helpful.